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Man starts out from laws of nature which are certainly all the same everywhere on earth, but no longer control all creations outside of earth. Read more:

Today I read messages coming from Bertha Dudde. Besides spiritual , they are dealing with scientific matters. I am bringing all of them here. The first message is B.D. NR. 1821 and the sixth is B.D. NR. 1826.

On this website we again and again deal with scientific things and these six messages bring informative material:


Illuminating power of the sun.

20. February 1941. B.D. NR. 1821.

A still unexplored field is the illuminating power of the sun, which is certainly bodily felt by every man and is also visible to the human eye, which is accepted as some matter of course and still found no explanation which is in accordance with truth. Men may investigate so thoroughly and exactly, they will never be able to solve this problem by use of their human intellect. Because man is only able to discover what is on earth and in its surroundings as far as it still belongs to the globe. But apart from this human research is insufficient. Man starts out from laws of nature which are certainly all the same everywhere on earth, but no longer control all creations outside of earth. And so for the first time the basic conditions for a research of unknown works of creation would not exist, consequently also the results cannot be perfect, because they have been established on a wrong base. But people are convinced of the correctness of these results of human research, although with deeper thought, provided they believe, would come upon contradictions. They are either not deeply believing or else they do not think. And then also the error cannot be corrected for them, and that is why an opinion is propagated among men which is to be called downright wrong compared to truth. The body of the sun holds living beings on its surface area like any other heavenly body, is therefore inhabited. Consequently this body cannot be a burning mass which constantly sends its shine to earth. This thought is almost to be called nave because a solid body which is constantly burning loses its solidity, and it consequently would also lose form. Likewise it has to be considered that every burning of a mass requires combustible basic raw material so that there must be some matter which is seized by the fire and consumed accordingly. Everything what the Sun holds would therefore have to be earthly matter, so a raw material which would be destructible through fire, through an element which is likewise dependent on earth. But as now both the matter as well as the element is omitted, no explanation exists for a luminous heavenly body. But everything what is outside of earth is never subject to those laws of nature, which are in force on earth. Human intellect only grasps what can be verified to it with likewise earthly laws of nature. But that there is much in Gods endless creation for which that, what is available to earth-man, is certainly insufficient, will have to be acknowledged by every wise and believing man because earth is just a very tiny work of creation compared to infinity. And it is understandable that the inhabitants of this earth cannot be completely initiated into the processes and nature of every work of creation. Things which exist on earth, to which no parallel can be found on earth, are understandably withheld from the intellectual knowledge of man; he cannot reckon with laws of nature which he does not know, which are unknown to him for that reason because the conditions for it do not exist. He therefore also cannot imagine their effects, therefore also cannot make out a calculation because it would lack every basis. Nevertheless information about it can be given to man spiritually; he just has to believe, because, as long as he lives on earth, nothing can be proven to him. However also the ones researching worldly cannot prove their results; they likewise have to be only believed, and they are believed because human intellect is not sufficient to recognize and reject false conclusions. And upon such a fallacy an entire thought structure now builds itself up and now adopts form through established teachings. An earthly-worldly opinion is submitted to men; an assertion is made about a process which would be a very defective explanation for the coming into being of light of the rays of sunshine. And men now live in this wrong opinion and are content with such explanation. They gain a wrong picture by it because the final aim of the human soul is completely unknown to them. But on the other hand they do not accept the enlightenment about the last, again for that reason because everything is exactly explained to them earthly, i.e. as natural effect, as it is done through such erroneous teachings. When man believes, then he hesitates to accept human wisdom, although he also cannot give himself a better explanation. But the spirit in him warns him to accept such human teaching. Then he considers creation outside of earth to be an unsolved puzzle, and that is much better than to form completed opinions for himself about it, which completely contradict truth. Because someone who is asking, the proper explanation can always still be given through spiritual powers who know for a person who believes to know already, it is hard to give enlightenment corresponding to truth. And still much depends on the right knowledge about it. Amen. B.D. NR. 1821.


Process of light radiation

20. February 1941. B.D. NR. 1822.

The process of light radiation is to be compared to a continual love work. This is insofar quite understandable as light rays are visible, therefore cannot be denied as existing, although it is no work of creation needing space but that love work is an act which as a product would have to result in a new form. But light is to be seen as more than a process, than a form, because it is not seizable, yet perceivable. Man would also not be able to build a form out of it, and this is again proof that light is a power out of the supernatural kingdom because everything what is earthly can be shaped to form, if human will is seriously active. But to shape light rays somehow, a certain state of maturity of spirit beings is required whose duty it is. These beings must be completely independent of earth and its laws; they must have decided on an activity which requires deep love; they must be prepared to permanent giving, and that wanting to give from a power which likewise flows towards them. This power starts from God; as a result it is spiritual substance which is luminous in itself because everything which is from God has an unimaginable illuminating power. Because God himself is light. Therefore every ray of sunshine is first the power out of God which is led to earth through innumerable beings, which again fulfil their mission by them acting as carriers of divine power. But secondly the rays of sunshine are the proof of untiring activity of these being; they are so to speak a reservoir out of which everything in creation is constantly fed. A process happens here which is only then understandable when it is recognized that without this forwarding of the power out of God creation would have to vanish, it therefore depends on the activity of those beings who have as their duty this imparting of power, the forwarding to everything needing the power of God that it therefore requires a high degree of love to permanently give what these beings receive themselves. So this mission is therefore a love work of the perfect being towards the still imperfect beingness, which is banished in creation and needs the supply of power out of God, which the spiritual, redeemed out of form, receives in excess and imparts to the unredeemed always and permanently in virtue of its love towards it. This is the pure spiritual explanation for a process which is earthly still unclear. Amen. B.D. NR. 1822.


Eruptions. Difference of celestial bodies.

21. February 1941. B.D. NR. 1823.

A natural law is valid for the universe the indestructability of that what is. Nothing can vanish, but only change according to the will of God. And this change again happens so that something becomes invisible to appear again somewhere else visibly. Every, no matter how small a work of creation carries this law in itself so that therefore the seemingly decay just means a transformation of that what had been before. Consequently also great works of creations like heavenly bodies can assume another form, this is however a process which stretches over a vast time period which requires thousands of years according to earthly chronology, which therefore can never be observed by men, insofar it is about fundamental changes of a work of creation. Mostly eruptions of individual works of creations are then the cause of new shapes of identical creations in reduced measure. These new creations have the same way and nature as that work of creation from which they came. In the vicinity of a sun always such heavenly bodies will exist where identical building up material and identical laws of nature are visible as their affiliation to exactly this sun. Earthly seen the sun can now be nothing but an infinitely enlarged product of identical nature as the surrounding planets because these are works of creation coming from it. Consequently also all these heavenly bodies would have to be populated the by the same beings. But the most enormous differences are now noticeable here. Not one work of creation holds the same living being in itself as the other, and consequently also the outer nature of each of the heavenly bodies is a different one, and exactly always adapted to the living beings which inhabit them. And this now also again eliminates an equal composition in material respects. Therefore it is only the core of each heavenly body a raw material, but the outer cover forms according to the living beings assigned to it. Everything existing in the vicinity of a sun came from this sun, i.e. has been thrust out of it, but has, beginning at the moment of its independence, assumed the nature which corresponds to the living beings to which this work of creations is to become the stay. The infinitely different degrees of maturity of the still imperfect spiritual require also infinitely many creations of different nature so that already is where the grounds lie for the difference of the celestial bodies. Amen. B.D. NR. 1823.


Unknown forces of nature origin of light.

22. February 1941. B.D. NR. 1824.

In the great distance of all heavenly bodies from each other and from the sun, which feeds them uninterruptedly with light and power, the explanation is to be sought for the little resistance which the individual creations put up. Consequently no frictions develop, and therefore it is also impossible that any of these creations could be or become light giving. That the light is produced through frictions is a law of nature which stretches over all creations. Compared to it the sun is the mother heavenly body; it is that work of creation which has the task of being heat and light giver for all those heavenly bodies which originally belonged to the sun. The sun is, seen with earthly eyes, a body of fire, i.e., men conclude from the light and heat power of the rays of sunshine that these necessitate an initial place which is fire in itself. This opinion is insofar erroneous as no precondition for such a source of the fire is given whatever. The atmosphere which surrounds the sun is completely divergent from that of earth, and by it powers of nature are again triggered for which man has no understanding because he does not know their existence. These powers of nature are therefore so to speak the originators of the light radiation when one wants to explain the illuminating process earthly. The result of worldly research however does not agree with the truth insofar as man imagines earthly processes, being effective in enlarged measure, that he absolutely wants to give the light and the illuminating power an origin, which he imagines to be earthly, but which is to be sought in forces of nature and laws about which men lack knowledge but which also cannot be imparted to them in the state of maturity on earth. All imaginations which are earthly conceivable are to be ruled out; and any enlightenment about that is unacceptable for man so long until his spirit is allowed to have insight into higher spheres. Only then explanation can be given to him. But as long as man stays on earth he is not receptive of that. Amen. B.D. NR. 1824.


State of compulsion. Light influence on unredeemed.

23. February 1941. B.D. NR. 1825.

The light of the spirit penetrates into every matter, i.e., the spiritual held in matter is permanently influenced by the spiritual outside matter to do that what has to lead to redemption. Therefore it is the spiritual outside of matter which is dominated by the will of God or, rather said, which subordinates itself under the divine will. Therefore it will exert influence so as God determines it. Consequently this spiritual is devoted to the spiritual in matter, which still stands at the beginning of its development, and the latter now carries out what the mature spiritual wants. This is the state of compulsion which every being hat to go through before it gets its free will as man. But simultaneously the mature spiritual makes the still undeveloped aware of its state of compulsion in the banished form and stimulates it to activity because the lightless stay in solid form is then an ordeal for the being, and when a light being breaks through this darkness and lets the spiritual in the form have a glimmer of the light, the desire for light is awakened in the being, and then it also willingly carries out what is demanded of it, and so loosens the cover something. The spirit can now already contact the spiritual outside considerably easier. So light is simultaneously means and purpose. Streaming light means letting become light hungry; desiring light means fulfilment. For light is given to the desiring being. From this it can be seen which love connects the eternal divinity with its creatures that they can let the will become active in them, i.e., they only carry out the divine will in form, it is however of great advantage for the being when the own will is already the same as the divine will, as long as it still stands in the state of compulsion. Such a being will cover the career on earth much more successfully; it will be able to leave again every form after a short stay because it willingly executes what means redemption for the being. But it is difficult to explain in what way however the mature spiritual assists the banished spiritual. These are spiritual currents which every work of creation must feel and which now bring the slumbering spiritual to awaken. Only the complete obstinate spiritual persists in its will opposite to God, and that is why its outer form is still very hard that even the love of the mature spiritual beings is not able to break the inflexible mind because the light gleams only highly seldom to the being persisting in the resistance against God and the inflexible mind can therefore not easily be broken to its own regret because due to its lack of light it does not recognize that there is help for the immature beingness, and that is why it does not desire this help out of its own accord. That is why it is often also jolted out of its stubbornness so that it now gets to know the advantage of a free state in a state of passing freedom and then strives for light all the more, therefore the spiritual mature powers having now access and can suitably successfully influence the banished spiritual, so that it now eagerly follows what is demanded of it, and the hardness of form around it now starts to decrease considerably, now the becoming free out of these forms happens proportionally quickly and the spirit out of God has unhindered access to the spiritual held in matter, which languishes for redemption. Amen. B.D. NR. 1825.


Spiritual explanation of eruptions. Serving in light.

24. February 1941. B.D. NR. 1826

To let the spiritual feel its banishment, both the own state of compulsion and also the freedom of will must be made recognizable. The one it must feel as agony and consider the other as desirable, only then it will do its duty to becoming free from the former state, to reach the freedom of will. Therefore the beings of light have to radiate the latter upon works of creation, whose spiritual still languishes in complete darkness. This must feel the ray of light as pleasant and now continue to desire it. Therefore it must desire to go up where light is in all fullness. However every radiation of light is the result of a serving activity, therefore serving in any form precedes, before a regular radiation of light can happen. Every outer form is indeed exposed to the radiation of light, but completely hardened spiritual turns away from it and needs infinite long time before it opens towards the light, i.e. lets it have an effect on itself. But then the desire for it breaks through with elementary power. Then everything what formerly was in the deep presses towards the surface, and strives toward the light, and then all desiring spiritual is released from its long imprisonment through eruptions and continues its course of development in changed outer form. And earth now also stands before such a powerful eruption, of which the bound spiritual beings long for liberation, for light and serving activity. And especially then the spiritual, languishing in the deep and darkness, presses up, when the spiritual on the earth does not use the fullness of light reaching it and this so to speak remains unnoticed. Then the undeveloped spiritual seeks to acquire this fullness of light, and it strives for it with elementary power which is expressed through natural disasters and creates fundamental changes regarding spiritual trends. Because the spiritual, which reaches the surface of the earth, now perceives every spiritual trend to an increased measure and therefore withdraws spiritual power from the already higher developed beings, which do not respect the same and leave it unused, which often means the bodily end of these beings on earth. The undeveloped spiritual takes spiritual power by now considerably changing its outer form, i.e. having provided an access to light. And now this spiritual can cover its course of development on earth, therefore strive for the light unhindered; it just must use the power available to it through serving activity. But once the desire for light is awakened in the spiritual then it also no longer resists serving in any way because it feels this activity as means to increased receipt of light and thereby feels at the same time the loosened fetter of its outer form, and although the course of development now corresponds to a mandatory law, the being is still also itself prepared to go it, its will is, although unfree, concurring with the divine will. Amen. B.D. NR. 1826.


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